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Poster: billbarstad Date: Jan 5, 2009 2:09pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Are Any Of These Copyright-Free?

I have to admit that I'm lousy at checking whether a film is PD, so I've held back uploading many movies. I also admit to being a fan of 1950s sci-fi and horror flicks. Here's a partial list of those types of films in my collection that I'd like to post:

Destination Moon (1950)
The Man From Planet X (1951)
When Worlds Collide (1951)
The Beast From 20,000 Fathoms (1953)
Cat-Women of the Moon (1953)
Invaders From Mars (1953)
It Came From Outer Space (1953)
Phantom From Space (1953)
Project Moon Base (1953)
Robot Monster (1953)
Monster From The Ocean Floor (1954)
Target Earth (1954)
It Came From Beneath The Sea (1955)
Tarantula (1955)
This Island Earth (1955)
Day The World Ended (1956)
Earth vs. The Flying Saucers (1956)
Forbidden Planet (1956)
The Mole People (1956)
World Without End (1956)
Attack Of The Crab Monsters (1957)
Beginning Of The End (1957)
The Black Scorpion (1957)
The Giant Claw (1957)
Incredible Petrified World (1957)
Kronos (1957)
Monolith Monsters (1957)
Not Of This Earth (1957)
The Unearthly (1957)
Attack Of The 50 Foot Woman (1958)
Attack Of The Puppet People (1958)
The Blob (1958)
The Colossus Of New York (1958)
Fiend Without A Face (1958)
Giant From The Unknown (1958)
How To Make A Monster (1958)
I Married A Monster From Outer Space (1958)
Monster From Green Hell (1958)
Monster On The Campus (1958)
Night Of The Demon (1958)
Teenage Cave Man (1958)
Missile To The Moon (1959)

Your help is greatly appreciated!

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Poster: k-otic Date: Jan 9, 2009 12:39am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Are Any Of These Copyright-Free?

Well, at least some of the titles seem to be pd ..
Again, thank you for your time and effort checkin them

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffVideo-Cellar Date: Jan 5, 2009 2:50pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Are Any Of These Copyright-Free?

The only two items on your list that seem to be public domain are "Phantom From Space" and "Incredible Petrified World". But they are already in the archive:

http://www.archive.org/details/Phantom_From_Space

http://www.archive.org/details/TheIncrediblePetrifiedWorld

A good starting point for sci-fi, horror and exploitation is checking if the title is on public domain video labels like alpha video, mill creek, etc, etc. If they are PD the will be exploited. I have added the copyright renewer for each of these pictures. These are mostly the major studio productions and, on the whole, they are still owned by the studios. Collectors like Wade Williams also bought up copyrights to some b-studio pics.

Destination Moon (1950) RENEWED BY WADE WILLIAMS
The Man From Planet X (1951) RENEWED BY UA TELEVISION
When Worlds Collide (1951) RENEWED BY PARAMOUNT PICTURES
The Beast From 20,000 Fathoms (1953) RENEWED BY WARNER BROS
Cat-Women of the Moon (1953) RENEWED BY WADE WILLIAMS
Invaders From Mars (1953) RENEWED BY WADE WILLIAMS & RICHARD ROSENFELD
It Came From Outer Space (1953) RENEWED BY UNIVERSAL CITY STUDIOS
Project Moon Base (1953) RENEWED BY MEDALION TV ENTERPRISES
Robot Monster (1953) RENEWED BY MEDALION TV ENTERPRISES
Monster From The Ocean Floor (1954) RENEWED BY MEDALION TV ENTERPRISES
Target Earth (1954) RENEWED BY HERMAN COHEN PRODS AND LORIMAR TV
It Came From Beneath The Sea (1955) RENEWED BY COLUMBIA PICTURES INDUSTRIES
Tarantula (1955) RENEWED BY UNIVERSAL CITY STUDIOS
This Island Earth (1955) RENEWED BY UNIVERSAL CITY STUDIOS
Day The World Ended (1956) RENEWED BY GOLDEN STATE PRODS
Earth vs. The Flying Saucers (1956) RENEWED BY COLUMBIA PICTURES INDUSTRIES
Forbidden Planet (1956) RENEWED BY MGM/UA ENTERTAINMENT CO
The Mole People (1956) RENEWED BY UNIVERSAL CITY STUDIOS
World Without End (1956) RENEWED BY LORIMAR PRODUCTIONS
Attack Of The Crab Monsters (1957) RENEWED BY LORIMAR PRODUCTIONS
Beginning Of The End (1957) RENEWED BY PETER S RODGERS
The Black Scorpion (1957) RENEWED BY WARNER BROS
The Giant Claw (1957) RENEWED BY COLUMBIA PICTURES INDUSTRIES
Kronos (1957) RENEWED BY NATIONAL TELEFILM ASSOCIATES AND WADE WILLIAMS
Monolith Monsters (1957) RENEWED BY UNIVERSAL CITY STUDIOS
Not Of This Earth (1957) RENEWED BY LORIMAR PRODUCTIONS
The Unearthly (1957) RENEWED BY PETER S RODGERS
Attack Of The 50 Foot Woman (1958) RENEWED BY LORIMAR PRODUCTIONS
Attack Of The Puppet People (1958) RENEWED BY ALTA VISTA PRODUCTIONS AND REVIVAL PICTURES
The Blob (1958) RENEWED BY JACK H HARRIS
The Colossus Of New York (1958) RENEWED BY PARAMOUNT PICTURES
Fiend Without A Face (1958) RENEWED BY TELEWORLD INC
Giant From The Unknown (1958) RENEWED BY WADE WILLIAMS
How To Make A Monster (1958) RENEWED BY SELMA ENTERPRISES
I Married A Monster From Outer Space (1958) RENEWED BY PARAMOUNT PICTURES
Monster From Green Hell (1958) RENEWED BY WADE WILLIAMS
Monster On The Campus (1958) RENEWED BY UNIVERSAL CITY STUDIOS
Night Of The Demon (1958) RENEWED BY COLUMBIA PICTURES INDUSTRIES under its US title "Curse of the Deamon"
Teenage Cave Man (1958) RENEWED BY SELMA ENTERPRISES
Missile To The Moon (1959) RENEWED BY WADE WILLIAMS

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Poster: billbarstad Date: Jan 5, 2009 5:16pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Are Any Of These Copyright-Free?

Well, it was worth a shot. Thanks for all your work!

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Poster: quigs Date: Jan 5, 2009 10:31pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Are Any Of These Copyright-Free?

How about The Thing from Another World or The Day the Earth
stood Still?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffVideo-Cellar Date: Jan 5, 2009 11:18pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Are Any Of These Copyright-Free?

Sorry no luck.

"Thing from Another World" is a bit of a tricky one. The movie was not renewed but the script was.

The Thing from another world; screenplay. By Charles Lederer & R K O Radio...
Type of Work: Motion Picture
Registration Number / Date: RE0000050597 / 1979-12-19
Renewal registration for: LP0000001053 / 1951-04-04
Title: The Thing from another world; screenplay. By Charles Lederer & R K O Radio Pictures, Inc.
Notes: Based on story, Who goes there? by John W. Campbell, Jr.
Copyright Claimant: R K O General, Inc. (PWH)
Variant title: The Thing from another world
Other Title: Who goes there?
Names: Lederer, Charles
Campbell, John W., Jr.
RKO Radio Pictures, Inc.
RKO General, Inc.

Only Turner Entertainment distributes it on DVD in USA so I would guess that it wouldn't be considered completely PD for US purposes.

Day the Earth Stood Still was Renewed also.

The Day the Earth stood still; motion picture photoplay.
Type of Work: Motion Picture
Registration Number / Date: RE0000033722 / 1979-09-10
Renewal registration for: LP0000001263 / 1951-09-18
Title: The Day the Earth stood still; motion picture photoplay.
Copyright Claimant: Twentieth Century-Fox Film Corporation (PWH)

Variant title: The Day the Earth stood still
Names: Twentieth Century-Fox Film Corporation

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Poster: billbarstad Date: Jan 6, 2009 7:36am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Are Any Of These Copyright-Free?

Here are a few obscure titles from my collection that just might be PD and that I'd like to post:

The Black Room (1935)
The Raven (1935)
Werewolf Of London (1935)
Dracula's Daughter (1936)
Stranger On The Third Floor (1940)
One Of Our Aircraft Is Missing (1942)
We Dive At Dawn (1943)
Between Two Worlds (1944)
The Dark Mirror (1946)
Act Of Violence (1948)
Decision Before Dawn (1951)
The Ship That Died Of Shame (1955)

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Poster: quigs Date: Jan 6, 2009 2:24pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Are Any Of These Copyright-Free?

here is one. The film, Them! Since someone put this in IA, is it still under copyright?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffVideo-Cellar Date: Jan 6, 2009 3:00pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Are Any Of These Copyright-Free?

Yes Them! was properly renewed by Warner Bros

Them. By Warner Brothers Pictures, Inc.
Type of Work: Motion Picture
Registration Number / Date: RE0000131473 / 1982-06-07
Renewal registration for: LP0000004918 / 1955-06-27 (in notice: 1954)
Title: Them. By Warner Brothers Pictures, Inc.
Copyright Claimant: Warner Brothers, Inc. (PWH)

Variant title: Them
Names: Warner Brothers Pictures, Inc.
Warner Brothers, Inc.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffVideo-Cellar Date: Jan 6, 2009 4:09pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Are Any Of These Copyright-Free?

No luck on any of these:

The Black Room (1935) Renewed R306585 (1962) Universal
The Raven (1935) Renewed R306322 (1962) Universal
Werewolf Of London (1935) Renewed R306314 (1962) Universal
Dracula's Daughter (1936) Renewed R336975 (1964) Universal
Stranger On The Third Floor (1940) Renewed R422278 (1967) Warner Bros.
One Of Our Aircraft Is Missing (1942) GATT/URAA Restoration PA0000905784 (1998) Republic Pictures
We Dive At Dawn (1943) GATT/URAA Restoration (1997) Carlton Film Distributors
Between Two Worlds (1944) Renewal of LP12650 (1972) Warners
The Dark Mirror (1946) Renewed R582958 (1974) Republic/NTA
Act Of Violence (1948) Renewed MGM Copyright now owned by Turner
Decision Before Dawn (1951) Renewed RE0000041379 (1979) 20th C Fox
The Ship That Died Of Shame (1955) Renewed RE0000160708 (1983) EMI Films Ltd

This post was modified by Video-Cellar on 2009-01-07 00:09:34

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Poster: billbarstad Date: Jan 6, 2009 4:06pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Are Any Of These Copyright-Free?

Thanks anyway.

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Poster: quigs Date: Jan 6, 2009 10:22pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Are Any Of These Copyright-Free?

Oka, here are 3 more; Mission to Mars, Rocketship XM, annd It Conquered the World.

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffVideo-Cellar Date: Jan 6, 2009 11:54pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Are Any Of These Copyright-Free?

"Rocketship X-M" seems to be PD. But could be complicated. It was not renewed in the 28th Year (1978). However, the USCO has a record of an arrangement between the producer's heir and Wade Williams from 1991. This was obviously made 13 years after renewal was necessary but as all the retail sites list all non-WW releases as "discontinued by the distributer", it could be that they send out C&D even though the film's PD. I know that they have been duped by the estates of some indie producers (Williams purchased the 'rights' to 12 of Harry Popkin's films and only about 3 of them were under valid copyright). Doesnt stop the C&D's though.

"It Conquered the World" was renewed RE0000208892 1984 Selma Enterprises.

Can't find references to "Mission to Mars" other than a 2000 movie which is obviously in copyright. There is a 1968 movie called "Mission Mars" with Darren McGavin, which is under copyright and "Flight to Mars" a 1951 Monogram Picture which was renewed RE0000037841 1979 by NTA and RE0000026731 by Wade Williams.

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Poster: quigs Date: Jan 7, 2009 1:43pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Are Any Of These Copyright-Free?

Thank for your inexhaustable efforts of keeping on top of this stuff. I hope Rocketship XM will appear on IA someday.

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Poster: k-otic Date: Jan 8, 2009 9:52am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Are Any Of These Copyright-Free?

aahhhh ... onne more ... what about the 1935 Greta Garbo version of Anna Karenina?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffVideo-Cellar Date: Jan 8, 2009 9:58pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Are Any Of These Copyright-Free?

As far as I can find out, that version of Anna Karenina had its copyright renewed.

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Poster: k-otic Date: Jan 8, 2009 2:26am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Are Any Of These Copyright-Free?

I´m not quite sure about the status of these movies (most of the pd distributors do handle them as pd but i´m not really sure)

The Entertainer (1960)
Charlie Chan - Meeting at Midnight (1944)
Only One Night (En enda natt) (1939)
Spy in Black (1939)
The Tell Tale Heart (1962)
Anna Karenina (1948)
Communion aka Alice Sweet Alice (1976)
The Limping Man (1953)
Tomorrow at Seven (1933)
Rene Clair's 'And Then There Were None' (1945)
Danger Trails (1935)
Rough Rider of Cheyenne (1945)
Oregon Trail (1945)
Santa Fe Saddlemates (1945)
The Trial (1963)

any infomation on those titles?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffVideo-Cellar Date: Jan 8, 2009 4:56am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Are Any Of These Copyright-Free?

The Entertainer (1960)
Movie wasn't renewed but the Play was. Also, as a film of UK origin, GATT/URAA may be applicable.

Charlie Chan - Meeting at Midnight (1944)
This film was originally released in 1944 as "Black Magic" It was registered for copyright under that title. The Registration no was LP12737. However, that reg no was given to an episode of "The Restless Gun" in 1953. Black Magic has been released by a number of PD distributors. However, Alpha Video's DVD has been discontinued.

Only One Night (En enda natt) (1939)
Valid GATT resoration PA0000973217 (2000)

Spy in Black (1939)
No GATT restoration has ever been filed. May not be eligible for restoration due to copyright status in UK at URAA enactment.

The Tell Tale Heart (1962)
May have been originally released in the US and thus is not eligible for GATT restoration. Hard to confirm.

Anna Karenina (1948)
GATT Restoration PA0001201912 (2003)

Communion aka Alice Sweet Alice (1976)
AKA Holy Terror. Was released without a notice in 1977. Was later reg'd for copyright in 1982 (PA0000207022). This makes a note of previous reg of screenplay in 1975 (DU93716). Film is probably PD. Gunslinger Films steadfastly defends the copyright because this is their only property. See their ebay Verified Rights Owner page here.

The Limping Man (1953)
The movie wasn't renewed. It is not eligible for GATT restoration because it showed in USA with 30 days of showing in the UK.

Tomorrow at Seven (1933)
Reg's in 1933 (LP3956). Not renewed. PD.

Rene Clair's 'And Then There Were None' (1945)
This is one of the 11 titles were the Popkins sold 'all rights' to Wade Williams. Those movies were "And Then There Were None", "Champagne for Caesar", "DOA", "Impact", "My Dear Secretary", "Quicksand", "Second Woman", "The Big Wheel", "The Thief" and "The Well". Only Champagne, Thief and Well were renewed correctly. Others were renewed incorrectly like:
DOA;a feature photoplay. By Cardinal Pictures, Inc.
Type of Work: Cancelled Registration
Cancelled Registration Number: RE0000005723
Registration canceled--in notice 1949, too late for renewal registration.
Title: DOA;a feature photoplay. By Cardinal Pictures, Inc.
Variant title: DOA
Names: Cardinal Pictures, Inc.

Danger Trails (1935)
Renewed Republic Pictures (1958)

Rough Rider of Cheyenne (1945)
Renewed by Republic R548975 (1973)

Oregon Trail (1945)
Renewed by Republic R548953 (1973)

Santa Fe Saddlemates (1945)
Renewed by Republic R531032 (1973)

The Trial (1963)
Was registered PAu000581731 in 1984. Wasn't renewed but is could have GATT restoration.

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Poster: billbarstad Date: Jan 16, 2009 6:53am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Are Any Of These Copyright-Free?

So, 'And Then There Were None' and 'The Trial' are probably copyright-free?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or StaffVideo-Cellar Date: Jan 16, 2009 8:19am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Are Any Of These Copyright-Free?

I would say that "The Trial" is a safe bet for a GATT restoration.

But "And Then There Were None" is public domain.

This post was modified by Video-Cellar on 2009-01-16 16:19:28

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Poster: billbarstad Date: Jan 16, 2009 8:56am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Are Any Of These Copyright-Free?

Cool! Thanks!

By the way, do you know of any Warner Oland or Sydney Toler Charlie Chan movies that are in the public domain other than 'Meeting at Midnight'?


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Poster: k-otic Date: Jan 8, 2009 9:25am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Are Any Of These Copyright-Free?

Thanks for your quick and detailed response

so you say ....

Charlie Chan - Meeting at Midnight (1944)... most likely pd
The Tell Tale Heart (1962).................. most likely pd
Communion aka Alice Sweet Alice (1976)...... pd
Tomorrow at Seven (1933).................... pd
The Limping Man (1953)...................... pd

i do like to upload "The Big Wheel" aswell
And Then There Were None (1945)............. pd like d.o.a?
The Big Wheel (1949)........................ pd like d.o.a?

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Poster: Blank Pictures Date: Jan 16, 2009 5:25am
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: Are Any Of These Copyright-Free?

I would be concerned about Tell-Tale Heart.
Copyright (in the UK and, so it would seem, in the US) belongs to The Kruger Organisation (see Library of Congress for US registration document).
It would appear that only 'questionable' PD labels like Mill Creek Entertainment are selling The Tell-Tale Heart.

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Poster: sabrina098 Date: Jul 31, 2009 2:37pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: 1956 movie, 'World Without End'

Hi


I see you on your list of movies - that you would like to post - Is there any reason your not posting this movie?

maybe a copywrite problem? I remembered see this movie years ago and it was very well made, by 1950's standards

Thank You,
sabrina

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Poster: cosmicola Date: Jul 31, 2009 3:13pm
Forum: feature_films Subject: Re: 1956 movie, 'World Without End'

World Without End is available on DVD from Warners, a double-feature with Satellite in the Sky. I found my copy at Best Buy.

I believe it is copyrighted.

This post was modified by cosmicola on 2009-07-31 22:13:21

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